Armory Chat EP05 – Having Guns In Your Hotel

Armory Chat video. Episode 05. Driving back into town and decided to take a minute and film this from the truck. The bottom line concerning having firearms in your room or on your person during a hotel stay: Nobody wants to see your dick.

Here is a screen grab of the text that was sent to me regarding this issue. Do you see the problem here? We can get wrapped around the axel all be want about what should be. But if YOU aren’t planning on dying on that hill, perhaps treating your guns like your junk would keep you from getting booted?

Now before the turd-suckers start rolling in trying to get this all twisted, I support open carry. For one very good and simple reason. If you don’t, any form of brandishing or flashing, intentionally or otherwise, will result in you getting arrested and charged. Not just kicked out of a hotel room. This is NOT a open carry debate. Even the original poster of this story says so.

The proof is in the result. The protagonist in this story was kicked out of his hotel because of his gun. And…the hotel did not make him walk through a magnetometer or go through a pat-down to enter his room. So we’re not looking at a non-permissible environment. So what gives?

The subject of the story put his weapon, needlessly, under the nose of hotel staff. Think of it like being in the military before Obama changed the policy on serving as a openly gay service member. Unless you do something to make it so blatant  a hotel simply can’t ignore it, they really don’t want any part of your dick…er…your gun.

You can either take my advice and, “carry on”. Or you can keep doing it the hard way and sleep in the parking lot with the hookers and the junkies.

 

Armory Chat Ep 05 Having Guns In Your Hotel room

Armory Chat Ep 05 Having Guns In Your Hotel room

 

 

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  • Hoze928

    I could not agree more. Unfortunately I have a job where I pretty much can’t carry concealed on my body so I’ve been carrying off body for years. Never once in all those years has anyone ever seen my weapon. It takes a special kind of stupid to let someone in a room you have secured but you don’t bother to secure your weapon. Reminds me of a great tshirt I saw the other day, Stupid should hurt…

  • Chris Bergen

    If, instead of “gun”, the object has been some other item, dildo, blow up doll, or ANY of a thousand things that some people may deem offensive, would that have also garnered removal from the premises?

    One can guarantee that people who work in hotels see some very disturbing stuff, why does a holstered, licensed handgun, sitting by itself, not being waved under people’s noses (per the additional note) be grounds for this action and commentary?

    It smacks of the “concealed only!” crowd, just like (as you say) the DADT policy instituted by Bill Clinton because “shhh, we should remain hidden all our lives so no one is uncomfortable, but everyone knows we exist”.

    I call BS. If we in this country have this right, To Keep and Bear Arms, then do it! Proudly! Loudly! Those that may be uncomfortable in their presence, get over it! I can’t have a negative opinion about a gay couple openly kissing in a restaraunt with my children present for fear of being called homophobic, so no one gets to have negative opinions about MY rights and how I exercise them!

    Rant off, flame suit on! 🙂

    • I support open carry from a legal standpoint because if I don’t anti-gun folks will use the banning of it to charge law abiding CCW people when they accidentally flash a gun.

      The hotel seems to have a no-gun policy. He choose to either ignore, or not know what their policy was, and then let his gun be visible to hotel staff. He let the situation dictate the result, instead of controlling it.

      The result: he was kicked out.

      My point? I don’t put myself in a position where a hotel gets to make that decision for me. I make that decision for the desired outcome I want. He did not. Or at least he forgot and made a mistake.

      Considering the events as he described them, it was not unforeseeable that he would be interfacing with hotel staff. Perhaps that is a good time put some pants on and wear your gun? Maybe not according to others?

      I am looking at this from a lessons learned stand point. What can my readers learn from this incident to better prepare themselves with CCW guns?

      Here is my personal CCW policy, and take full responsibility for whatever comes my way. And I am in no way giving someone legal or professional advice:

      1. CCW signs are to be ignored.
      2. Magnetometers are to be obeyed.
      3. Don’t get caught.

      Marky

      • Outlaw

        My favorite saying that I may or may not have invented. “It ain’t illegal till you get caught doing it.” And let me say I agree 1000% with what you said Marky.

        • CCW is legal. A lot of these types of pseudo-public-private-places put up knee-jerk signs one can’t even see. So I just don’t even try to find them. The worst that can happen is I am asked to leave.

          If I didn’t do it that way, there would be hell just even finding a hotel that didn’t have the policy.

          Marky

  • Brennen Munro

    I agree with you on this one Marky. If you are going to initiate any interaction with the staff of hotels or other establishments, make sure your squared away before you initiate that contact. They never should have known, and he has no reason to be upset about it.

    Munro

    • As I stated before, I suspect the originator of these posts is probably being a little too dramatic in wrapping his ego up in the problem.

      The hotel was private property. He got burned. I’m not exactly sure what his definition of “victory” is here?

      If he has all the time in the world to tilt at windmills and rage against the machine? That certainly is his prerogative. But the reason why I suspect ego is more the driver here is because he didn’t put that energy into finding out about the issue before hand? But I bet he knew everything about how their point system and travel miles worked.

      Those of us who travel with firearms and have schedules to keep generally ignore the CCW signs with the understanding that the worst that can happen is we can be kicked out.

      All the hotel need to know about me is that my room is paid for and I expect room service in a timely fashion.

      Marky

      • Brennen Munro

        I had a friend recently who was in DC with his wife and college aged daughter, somehow they managed to drop a holster while unloading their car onto the service cart. The bellhop picked it up and asked if it belonged to them in a very discrete way. How they managed to drop it again on the way to the elevator I have no idea, but again the bellhop picked it up and this time handed it back to my friend and asked that he secure it a little better. This is a very no firearms kind of place, so the fact that this bellhop returned the holster on the sly twice, speaks for the mindset of this guy anyway! My friend is a retired Marine and carries himself with that acquired stance that is hard to miss. He tipped the bellhop handsomely for his discretion, and put it away himself to insure that there would be no “dropping” between the elevator and the room! He was laughing about it when he told me, but he also said that he just knew he was going to jail rather than the Jefferson Memorial. Fun!

        Munro

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