I don’t hand load the PTR 91

I could also title this article, “I don’t hand load the HK91” but I like to be specific. It’s a PTR 91 GI Model, that is a really good copy of the HK91 battle rifle.

Many know I carry this rifle as a “truck gun”. What I lose in manual of arms and appropriateness for the CQB role, I pickup in punch and effective range. But mainly punch.

So why don’t I keep the 5.56 SCAR 16 in the truck?

Frankly, sometimes I think I should. Like today. I am far, far from home and we all just spent 10+ hours trying to figure out how many jihadi shooters there were in Munich? The authorities practically shut down a city of 1.3 million people because of one crazy shooter: orders to shelter in place, mass transit halted, train terminals evacuated, orders to NOT drive your car. Not good.

But even I, as well trained and capable as I am, realize that in such situations I am more likely to be shot by the good guys “trying to help” than actually helping. Especially running around carrying a long gun! So grabbing a tennis bag out of the back of my truck and hauling ass to a private and defensible position is my “go-to plan”. And it should be yours too.

But statistically, I am more likely going to use the PTR to put down a 4 legged animal than a 2 legged one. So the 308 doesn’t hurt when the likely target can range from 60# to 300#. Gotta keep it real.

So why am I talking about Munich, Truck Guns, or “bug-in” plans when the title of this article is “I don’t hand load the PTR 91”?


Every time something pops off in the news and concerned people start to consider having options besides their personal CCW, it is inevitable someone will want to know what load do I use for the PTR?

Dude! It’s a HK91/G3/PTR! Have you seen what the chamber does to the brass after firing? I don’t run a truck gun as a precision rig. It’s a zero-100 yard hammer. That’s it. Deer. Jihadis. Cars. Sheetrock. Glass. I keep it loaded with 147 ball ammo. But if you must run match ammo, here are photos of super-nice PPU 168 match fired through it.

For my purposes that’s a waste of money and effort.



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  • Peter Levakis

    Ditto here. I have an H & K SL 7 in .308. The short while they sold it was marketed as a trail/truck gun. The one photo ad I remember pictured a cowboy looking individual on a horse going down a mountain with the rifle in a scabared .
    It does do a number on the brass. At the time I bought a bunch of military surplus ammo for just that reason. I do have several of my pals offer to take it off my hands if I ever need some cash. It’s one of a few oddball purchases I have at one time or another. Thanks for the post.

    • I might be interested the SL7 if you ever let it go as well!


      • Peter Levakis

        You’re on the list!

        • When I first got an alert previewing that “I was on the list”, I was thinking something else!


          Thank you.


          • Peter Levakis

            Sorry, sometimes I forget the volatile times we live in.

          • No need to be sorry. It’s a reflection of my mind and the experiences I’ve had.

            Neat rifle.

            What’s the kick like?


          • Peter Levakis

            IMHO very mild. I’m not a large person and it is quite pleasant to shoot. The action is very much like the 91. Not being a hunter, ( nothing against it ) most of my shooting is handgun competition, so I don’t take it out but maybe once a year to play with. Like I said, H & K was looking at a hunter market, I believe, and I think it would fit the bill for game in the .308 range. Thanks for you interest, I really enjoy the posts.