Shorty Shotguns

These shorty shotguns have been making a comeback since the 2017 SHOT show. At least in force since then. They were quite popular in the 80’s but as the AR rifle started to dominate LEO circles, the shorty started to fade quite a bit.

What do I think? This is going to sound like a cop-out, but they can have a place in the working world. Best tool for the job? I’m not so sure. As someone who has actually spent a significant amount of my career ACTUALLY fighting in and around cars, as opposed to taking classes teaching “theory”, the shorty is an interesting option.

But understand my perspective. When I talk about fighting around cars, I sure as $hit am not talking about shooting things 25-50 meters away. That’s gun-school-cool-guy hokey crap. I am talking about contact distances to a max of about 10 feet.

Why 10 feet? Because at 10 feet, I have a lot more options like running, ducking behind a car**, stomping the long-skinny-pedel on the right. But…I really enjoy what a standard capacity 9mm brings to that fight these days. 15-17-19-21 rounds punching in and around cars is A LOT of firepower. A LOT! And you can do it one handed***.

**Yeah. Funny how everyone on the internet talks $hit about how cars aren’t cover but out in the real world everyone goes diving behind cars as soon as the shooting starts. Myself included. Whatever, dude.

***Yeah. Funny how everyone on the internet $hit talking shooting handguns one handed gets into a armed fist-fight and every one is done one handed. Whatever, dude.

The shorty shotgun? Very old school. And old school is in since people want to look back at the “old coots” and pretend they are all Yoda’s. Sure. Sure. Some. But what I do know…

A bunch of civilians are going to run out and buy these things and realize they ain’t as fun to run as your SEAL TEAM 47 MK1000 AR rifle. And one day…they will start to turn up on the secondary market as used, but factory original. And priced accordingly.

You go first. I’ll buy yours later.

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  • Terri Eckrode

    Hahaha good take.

    • They are cool. But suck to train with. So like many j-frames they are carried a lot and shot little.

      And when a civilian gets bored with having a gun that he hasn’t used in years, it becomes trade bait for something he has to have next year.

      Kinda like the S&W Governor pistol. Goofy concept. And when they hit the used counter, I’ll snatch one up cheap knowing what’s it’s real limitations are.

      In this case, a factory made shorty as opposed to some chop-job you need to constantly tell people is actually legal even when they don’t believe it.


      • Hoze928

        Don’t worry there are plenty of us no face book fans who check your sight out daily. Love your real world take. My 2 cents on shotguns in general is they have a place but be ready to hold on to it for years before you might need to take it out and dust it off. God Bless

        • Comments like yours make me think this blog was the right decision. Thank you.


    • P.s. Thanks for stopping by our little site. We are trying to diversify off Facebook since they are anti-gun.


      • Terri Eckrode

        Dropped FB months ago. Can’t stand their crap. Glad you send out your blogs via e-mail. I like to see and read your take on different weapons on the market. BTW did Freeze ever give you any info regarding the .410/.22 over and under?

        • Not yet. I’ll reach out to him tonight to see what he says.


        • Mikial

          Agree completely. Dropped FB a couple of years ago and haven’t looked back. It’s a complete invasion of privacy, and I really don’t want my ex stalking me through it. 😉

  • Mikial

    I like shotguns in certain situations, but vehicle combat is not one of them. As room brooms when you have no other choice but to press on, they’re pretty good although I personally still prefer a solid AR or AK option. As for handguns, probably the most versatile CQB weapon available, again, in my personal opinion. On one of my PSD contracts in Iraq, the drivers were the only ones issued handguns. Everyone else was expected to use their AKM with the folding stock.