22 Caliber SAW Trainer

While I was traveling down south, I stopped in a Army Surplus Store. Now this isn’t your average, run of mill, surplus shop. The proprietor had quite the personal collection on display! More on that later.

But one thing that did grab my eye was this 22lr M249 SAW trainer. The owner seemed to be convinced it had come out of Blackwater’s east coast training facility in Moyock, NC. It was his understanding this was one of a few 22 caliber (That’s 22LR not 223) SAW’s they used for initial familiarization training. I would guess these would be used by “civilian” contractors who may have had zero firearms experience, as opposed to their “para-military” contractors working actual security billets.

But my guess is as good as yours.

After Blackwater went through it’s post Iraq War drawn down, these ended up on the secondary market. At least that is the story I was told. Buy the gun, not the story as they say.

22LR M249 SAW Trainer

22LR M249 SAW Trainer

While most of the items in his personal collection were not for sale (NFS), I did get the owner to offer me a price on this item. I recall it was $7000.

Pretty cool rifle. Interesting story. $7000 dollars? It’s still sitting there if you are interested.

 

 

 

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  • Gary Tompkins

    I’m interested. Hey, do you have $7000 I can barrow? Hahaha. At that price I’d pass also. $7000 can buy a lot of other items on my “want” list.

  • Brennen Munro

    7K… Wow, it would still be sitting there if I had seen it too! For less than 5 bucks, a couple of cups of coffee, I can go down to Fort Bragg and hear all kinds of gun-foo stories, some of which may even be true! Some of those guys play with all kinds of weird and foreign born toys that go bang… Which reminds me of another story I can share with you when ever we get to meet each other. If you ever find yourself in the regions of central NC let me know, and I would enjoy meeting up with you guys.

    Munro

  • hector garza

    He was full of b/s. I have one of these. It’s simply a ruger10/22, inside a metal airsoft chassis. There is a guy who sells the chassis for around $700.00. You have to provide your own ruger 10/22. He is using airsoft chassis also. He wouldn’t confirm it when I asked. A matter of fact he quit communicating with me. After I asked. If anyone wants one find you a used or even buy a new Airsoft m249,& strip it down.You will have to make a couple of cuts,drill,& thread some holes. The front sight,& carry handle will fit on a standard10/22 barrel. A gsg 110 round drum,will fit inside the airsoft 200 round drum. If you want to give it a little more authentic look. I added a gat trigger system to mine. It cost$50.00 . You get four shots with every turn of the crank. If you buy everything new it should run you around $600.00. Around$200 for the ruger,$60 for the drum magazine,& $ 300.00 for the airsoft doner rifle. You were smart not to buy that one from him. For$7000.00 you can get a semiauto, 5.56 F/N M249.

    • Hector, thanks for commenting.

      Up front, I know next to nothing about airlift beyond what we have used in Force-on-force training.

      This rifle, I didn’t touch it since I knew there was zero chance I would buy it. But your comment begs the question, is the airlift chassis plastic or metal? Doe it simulate the actual weight of a real 249?

      Also going forward, is there a marking or obvious sign something is air soft? I really don’t know!

      Marky

      • hector garza

        I study the pictures,& can tell its an airsoft chassis. And yes the airsoft version is made of metal. Working sights,& folding bipod.

        • Like Freeze says; buy the gun, not the story. Appreciate you educating me.

          Marky

          • hector garza

            No problem. I just wanted to let people know.So,they wouldn’t spend to much on it. I had a hard time when I was trying to figure out. There was another company in Florida that used to make one with a working charging handle,but they shut down.It’s to bad too. There’s looked really good. If anyone wants to buy the$700 kit,look up m249 .22 lr. But if you can use a Dremel and a drill I’d say do it yourself

          • hector garza

            I forgot to answer your question about the markings. Sometimes they do. The one I bought does not. Also,you can change out some of the airsoft parts for Actual m249 parts. The folding bipod will fit with a little tinkering. I ordered a real m249 buttstock. When it gets here I can let you know if it fits. Incase anyone wants to know.

          • The fact real parts of a belt-feed machine gun fit on anything air soft just blows my mind.

            Marky

          • hector garza

            Yeah it is crazy. I never played or owned any airsoft guns until now. But I always wanted a saw,& my wife would kill me if I spent $7000-$9000 on a semi auto.

          • hector garza

            Received the real m249 stock the other day. It almost fit perfect,but the top hole on the airsoft receiver was a little off. I got it to go on with a little tweaking. So,it can be done,but it won’t just go on with out any work. In my opinion it was worth it. Gives the .22 a little more weight. Was going to post a pic,but couldn’t figure it out.

    • hector garza

      Yes it is made out of metal also has a working bipod working carry handle. I studied the pictures and could tell that it is an airsoft chassis. The weight with the Ruger inside is around 12 pounds. So it is pretty close in weight. The airsoft chassis is supposed to be to scale with the real thing.