Armory Chat EP17 — I broke a SPAS 12 shotgun – Moderating Mythology

EP17 of the live Armory Chat is in the can. While I was getting ready to record this quick bit about some of our social media moderating policies, I accidentally broke a SPAS-12 shot. So…we just turned on the camera right there and got it done.

Marky

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  • Grant Schmeeckle

    I purchased a brand new example of this shotgun at an estate sale last year, still in the shrink wrap. Now I’m afraid to even touch it.

    • I “think” it’s part of a recoil buffer in the receiver. It seems to be a polymer part that is known to break down with age. So to shoot it semi automatic he would need to replace it. Or you risk damaging the receiver.

      Also small hard pieces of plastic started to fall out of the receiver as well. I am fairly certain that’s what this part goes to.

      No worries.

      Curious, what did you pay for yours?

      Marky

      • Grant Schmeeckle

        Right around 2k. I just remembered seeing it on Jurassic Park and always wanted one, not sure what I will do with this example.

        • Does it run birdshot or low recoil ammo in semiauto?

          Marky

          • Grant Schmeeckle

            Haven’t shot this one, I’ll leave it in the shrink-wrap for now.

          • Pretty cool that as well.

            Marky

  • Paul Ellis

    Looks about the size for the feed system….maybe part of something that pushes the rounds out of the mag tube…

    • I think it’s part of the recall buffer. When I was in the armory I’m pretty sure I still saw the follower in the mag tube.

      Marky

      • Paul Ellis

        I’ve never handled one and am totally unfamiliar with any of the internals…but if that’s part of the buffer system and it’s disintegrating…well I’ll just keep myself that way too…

        • In all fairness, 1911’sometimes have shokbuff’s. Some HK Guns have O-Rings that need to be replaced.

          Ditto on some of the AR’s as well.

          Goes with the territory.

          Marky

  • Scot Prehn

    If you can break a long gun trying to figure it out, it’s probably not a great design…

    • True.

      I suspect it’s just a rubber buffer that disintegrated after 30 years.

      Marky

      • Scot Prehn

        I guess that makes sense… didn’t realize how old it was…. looking forward to seeing it in action…. if you are taking it to the range, take video!

        • We will. I’d be curious to see how it patterns. I suspect it won’t cycle light loads. But who knows. It’s just a fun-gun. Nothing serious.

          That’s what my 590 is for.

          Marky

          • FYI: It is my understanding that there is also a SPAS12 choke tube adapter, which replaces the thread protector on the muzzle. The adapter can accept screw-in choke tubes from the pre-1998 Franchi shotguns. A quick Google search can find several choke tube manufacturers still making this pattern.

          • Interesting information. I’m not sure for our purposes that the vice is necessary.

            We have it generally as a reference gone for manual of arms. And even in that role it would be used as a “tactical” gun.

            Not sure I would be needing to choke down buckshot. And I’m sure somebody would end up shooting slugs through it and blowing out the choke anyway.

            But it gets me thinking? I never considered choke tubes and non-lethal rounds before.

            Marky

          • There are rifled chokes for use with slugs. A couple of vendors (Buck Kicker, Patternmaster, et al.) have come up with chokes suitable for buckshot. However, the trick is finding one suitable for a pre-1998 Franchi.

            That said, you don’t want to go shoot Trap, Skeet, and Sporting Clays with a SPAS12? Just imagine the reaction from the shooters with their flossy sporter models. Back in the 1980s, former USPSA and SOF 3-Gun champion John Shaw mentioned trolling his local clubs with his 3-Gun modified Remingtons.

  • Here are some links to a SPAS12 parts list and an exploded diagram. It looks like Part #6 – the receiver shock absorber. The fellow that ran the SPAS12 website used to make a replacement.

    http://spas12.com/spas/gruppo_di_big_boomo.jpg
    http://spas12.com/spas12partsliste.htm
    http://spas12.com/ReceiverShock.html
    http://spas12.com/spas12repairs.htm#shock

    FWIW: The SPAS12 was pretty popular in action films and TV shows back when it first hit the US market in the 1980s. You couldn’t miss it in The Terminator or Miami Vice.