Alias Training Closes Because of Paypal?

I have watched over the past week or so hearing that Alias training has closed shop. While I am aware of who they are as a group, I have had no experience with them professionally or personally. At least not that I am aware of. But that is not the reason why I am posting this story. If you want inside scoop on Alias, I can’t help you on that. But….

The rumor that is being tossed about from some inside of Alias Training isn’t that they mismanaged their company, but that Paypal froze their funds. Is that true or not? Smoke and mirrors? I am not in a position to know. Alias could have spent all their money on hookers and blow for all I care.



But I do know quite a bit about Paypal and how they operate. Yes, I am aware they are anti-gun. As a “gun guy” I am fully aware of the “discreet Paypal OK” description in the For Sale section of your favorite gun forums.

When we started this business, a t-shirt business mind you, we accepted Paypal. One, I pretty much had to since they were the only game in town at the time. And two, we sell t-shirts. Our customer demographic age could swing from 13 to 113. Young kids use Paypal. Or put this way: How old do you have to be to get a credit card? See where this is going? We had to take Paypal to sell t-shirts to kids.

Alias Company Logo is no more.

Alias Company Logo is no more.

No big deal. We are doing our thing. Not bothering anyone. Taking Paypal. And then Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield got murdered.

For our new readers who may not know the story, we did the original Chris Kyle – Chad Littlefield memorial shirt. It was never supposed to be anything big. You see, this was before, “Chris Kyle American Sniper”. Very few people outside the military and shooting community even knew who he was. Yes, that is the truth. Many of you couldn’t have picked Chris Kyle out of a line-up.

The Chris Kyle - Chad Littlefield Memorial Shirt

The Chris Kyle – Chad Littlefield Memorial Shirt. Paypal froze all funds, leaving us broke. 

So we structured the shirt with that in mind. All the profits would go to the families. And we would have “done something” to make a difference. However small.

It wasn’t until…as I recall…maybe…that Monday that we realized that thousands and thousands of people had logged in and placed orders for Chris Kyle T-shirts. Through Paypal.

And then Paypal froze our accounts.

Gulp. How do we fill these orders with no money?

The rest of the story is…we survived. It just about broke us, but we survived. The Alias thing has me looking back. Knowing what that feels like; in some weird way, I hope Alias didn’t get jammed up by Paypal. In some weird way, I kinda hope all that money was spent on double-dance-donkey-night in Tijuana.

Crackerjack, the company Donkey. Yes, He's real.

Crackerjack still hasn’t been paid for double-dance-night.

Fucking Paypal.


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  • Conner

    Wow, I just heard about that about Pay-pal. That’s too bad. They made for a quick transaction. Well now I wouldn’t buy an old pair of chonnies through these chumps anymore. Quick note: My wife went to pick up something from Target because it was close. While in line the lady cashier asked my wife if she would like to open an account and gave her the 10% off bullshit if she opened one now. My wife being too honest for her own good sometimes said ‘ No I don’t think so. My husband hates Target because you hate guns and have open bathrooms. (DOAH!) She said the lady didn’t say one more word to her during the whole (last) transaction. I’ve never understood why movie stars or big business are dumb enough to show their political bias. Seems they always lose half their fans or customers. What a “progressive ” thing to do.

    • HA! The Target story makes me happy.

      Paypal is legendary for being anti-gun. But Visa is anti-gun. And the largest CC processing company in America is also Anti-gun.


  • Mikial

    Pay Pal has the user policy of no guns or ammunition transactions. They are, after all, an offshoot of eBay, which is anti-Constitution but none of that has a fucking thing to do with T-shirts. Idiots. No worries and their loss over all. I use them for a very few things, but all my Gun Broker transactions are done with M.O.’s and certified checks. A little slower but you don’t feel like you have to wash your hands after dealing with the PP a**holes and PP doesn’t get a penny out of it.

    • What has happened is more and more online payment alternatives are popping up. Chase Quick-pay comes to mind. Soon, you’ll be able to do blind transactions without a paypal in-between the parties. Which is death for paypal.


      • Brennen Munro

        I will not shed a tear if those chuckle heads go out of business. Paypal knifed in the back smaller start-ups that had a better business model, but were choked out of exhistence by paypal telling other businesses that if they also used company “X”, then they could not use them, ever… Bullies suck, on the playground or in the boardroom.


        • Paypal as a business model is suspect with growing technology advances. Wall street knows it.


  • Mikial

    Total change of subject, but has anyone attended one of the Range 15 viewings the guys from Ranger Up put together? We have tickets for this month and it promises to be a wild night. Just wondering if any of you have been to one.